Some Xian Fundies: No ET’s

David A. Weintraub has written a book, Religions and Extraterrestrial Life: How Will We Deal With It?. Google Books gives us some snippets of it, and they include some other fundies’ arguments. Advanced ET’s imply a big no-no among fundies: evolution. Then ET’s having advanced wisdom or conquering death being a challenge to Xianity. Then the Fermi Paradox and then how Genesis 1 implies that the heavenly bodies were not created to be homes for ET’s. Then how belief in ET’s is supposedly a result of belief in “evolutionism”.
Would Finding Alien Life Change Religious Philosophies? about David Weintraub’s book.

Public polls have shown that a large share of the population believes aliens are out there. In one survey released last year by the company Survata, 37 percent of the 5,886 Americans who were polled said they believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, while 21 percent said they didn’t believe and 42 percent were unsure. Responses varied by religion: 55 percent of atheists said they believed in extraterrestrials, as did 44 percent of Muslims, 37 percent of Jews, 36 percent of Hindus and 32 percent of Christians.

Some of these variations may be due to the demographics of the various groups — it would be interesting to try to sort that out.

Weintraub found that some religions are more accommodating to the idea of E.T. than others. Those with an Earth-centric spiritual point of view are the most likely to be made uncomfortable by questions about the discovery of aliens. Certain evangelical and fundamentalist Christians, for example, are of the opinion that God’s sole intent was to create people here on Earth. Some believe that if God created life anywhere else, it would say that in Genesis, Weintraub said.

But other fundies may disagree. David Weintraub notes the speculations of the founders of Seventh Day Adventism. But present-day SDA’s may not agree, and they may be closer to the anti-ET fundies. Something that also applies to the various SDA offshoots, like Garner Ted Armstrong’s Worldwide Church of God and its offshoots.

Catholics and mainline Protestants tend to have much less trouble with the idea of ET’s, and believers in other Abrahamic religions and also Asian religions also have little trouble with the idea.

After the fold: lots of fundies on how there are no ET’s.

Did God create life on other planets? – by Gary Bates.

About the argument that a mostly-uninhabited universe would go to waste, GB argues that God can do whatever he wants to. BTW, in the 18th cy., many people believed that the other planets were inhabited because God would not let them go to waste by being uninhabited.

GB continues with arguing that ET’s would not have inherited Original Sin from Adam and Eve, that they would still have suffered from its effects, that Jesus Christ could only have died for A and E’s descendants, and that he died only once, not lots of times on other planets.

Then GB discusses the Heb 11:3 “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” and Jn 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.” where the italicized words are sometimes cited as references to other inhabited planets and to ET’s. But I agree with GB that that’s overinterpreting those verses.

Then GB discusses someone’s argument that ET’s aren’t guilty of original sin and won’t need salvation, but that they won’t be going to Heaven or Hell either. However, GB notes that God has created us in his likeness, and advanced ET’s would be more in God’s likeness than we are, so advanced ET’s cannot exist.

Then GB seems to assert young-earthism.

It’s not just Gary Bates: Did God create life on other planets? – — Addressing the question of “Could there be ‘simple life’ elsewhere in space?”,

And in any case, any ‘microbes on Mars‘ were likely as a result of human contamination. What would be their purpose? The entire focus of creation is mankind on this Earth; the living forms on Earth’s beautifully balanced biosphere are part of our created life support system.

It’s also these:

Extraterrestrial life – CreationWiki, the encyclopedia of creation science

Belief in aliens is firmly rooted in evolution, a premise rejected by this web site. The following discussion is in context of the premise that Creation is true, the Bible is accurate, the universe is young and evolution is false. This being the case, the notion of alien life forms is rejected.

EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE – What does the Bible say about intelligent life on other planets?

The Bible does not teach that intelligent life exists elsewhere in our universe. Although our all-powerful God could have created such life had He desired, it seems rather obvious from Scripture that He did not. The timetable for this present universe is measured by God’s dealings with us. It appears that God has created the human race, on the planet called Earth, as the sole beneficiary of His fellowship. This fellowship is of such a unique design that we are told that God’s only true extra-terrestrial creations—angels—are eager to observe it in action. It is our privilege to be the center of attention in our vast and wonder-filled universe.

Are we alone, or is there life elsewhere in the universe? • ChristianAnswers.Net

The devil has his own repertoire of deception in the form of various occult practices and a multitude of religious rites. It could be that behind those unexplainable UFO reports there is the work of the arch-deceiver.

Can Life Exist on Other Planets? | The Institute for Creation Research

While we cannot prove biblically that God did not create life elsewhere, the strong implication of Scripture is that He did not. These very different predictions of the special creation and evolution models mean that the search for life elsewhere amounts to a powerful test between the two theories of origin.

Evolution = ET’s, creationism = no ET’s.

Alien Life | Answers in Genesis
links to some articles in AiG:

Is Anyone out There? | Answers in Genesis

When we contemplate life on other planets, what are we really looking for? Many believe that some alien culture will tell us the secrets of our purpose in this universe; others believe that these space beings hold the key to health and eternal life; and some even claimed to hear from our “space brothers.”

Could it be that some are searching so diligently for extraterrestrial life because they are hoping to find some form of salvation from the stars—longer life, health, peace, or even identity? Some search “out there” because they think they can’t find those things here.

When I look at what fundies say about other religions and belief systems, I can’t help but suspect that they are afraid of competition. Here, the author seems afraid of rival accounts of superbeings from the sky bringing great messages.

Seeking in Vain

Although it is often easy for us to dismiss reports of UFOs or alien encounters, perhaps instead of dismissing them outright, we should look to the underlying assumptions and needs of those who make such claims. Many have been taught that life arose on this planet spontaneously and evolved into complex organisms. If it happened here, they believe, surely it could happen elsewhere in the universe. They also believe that since life evolved, there is no purpose or hope for them beyond what they can see, hear, taste, touch, and smell; when they die, that’s all there is. These aliens and UFOs are their hope for something beyond themselves.

Seems as if he believes that ET’s don’t exist.

Are ETs & UFOs Real? | Answers in Genesis

Many Christians have bought into the idea of extraterrestrial alien life. But is this idea really biblical?

The Evolution Connection

The idea of extraterrestrial life stems largely from a belief in evolution. Recall that in the evolutionary view, the earth is “just another planet”—one where the conditions just happened to be right for life to form and evolve. If there are countless billions of other planets in our galaxy, then surely at least a handful of these worlds have also had the right conditions. Extraterrestrial life is almost inevitable in an evolutionary worldview.

One can be a creationist and believe in ET’s. In fact, that was common during the 18th century. Many people believed that God would not let a world go to waste, and that for this reason, he created inhabitants for all of them.

However, the notion of alien life does not square well with Scripture. The earth is unique. God designed the earth for life (Isaiah 45:18). The other planets have an entirely different purpose than does the earth, and thus, they are designed differently.

When we consider how the salvation plan might apply to any hypothetical extraterrestrial (but otherwise human-like) beings, we are presented with a problem. If there were Vulcans or Klingons out there, how would they be saved? They are not blood relatives of Jesus, and so Christ’s shed blood cannot pay for their sin. One might at first suppose that Christ also visited their world, lived there, and died there as well, but this is antibiblical. Christ died once for all (1 Peter 3:18; Hebrews 9:27–28, Hebrews 10:10). Jesus is now and forever both God and man; but He is not an alien.

Extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept; it does not comport with the biblical teachings of the uniqueness of the earth and the distinct spiritual position of human beings. Of all the worlds in the universe, it was the earth that God Himself visited, taking on the additional nature of a human being, dying on a cross, and rising from the dead in order to redeem all who would trust in Him. The biblical worldview sharply contrasts with the secular worldview when it comes to alien life. So, which worldview does the scientific evidence support? Do modern observations support the secular notion that the universe is teeming with life, or the biblical notion that earth is unique?

In other words, there are no sentient ET’s because if there were, Jesus Christ would have to die for their sins on their home planets, and die, die, die lots of times.

I doubt if other religions have that sort of problem with ET’s. A Muslim could say that each planet has its own counterpart of the prophet Mohammed, without having to be Mohammed himself. Muslims recognize predecessor prophets, so additional prophets on other planets would not be a problem. A Buddhist could say much the same thing about the Buddha, that Siddhartha Gautama does not have to be reincarnated on other planets, though he might have done so if he wanted to.

The AiG author continues:

In some cases a belief in ETs may stem from a feeling of cosmic loneliness … In many cases it comes from an academic desire to learn the mysteries of the universe; a highly developed alien race might have advanced knowledge to pass on to us.

Like medical knowledge, though we wouldn’t get such knowledge from an interstellar broadcast. It would be too specific to us.

In a way, a belief in extraterrestrial life has become a secular replacement for God.

Having competition must hurt.

Should We Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence? | Answers in Genesis

The idea that other civilizations exist in outer space is based on evolutionary assumptions. Such reasoning is faulty, though, because evolution does not have any biblical or true scientific basis.

After noting what some SETI advocates think that we could learn, the author claims that we already have those answers in the Bible.

Any Little Green Men Out There? | Answers in Genesis — “Millions of dollars of taxpayers’ money is going into a search for intelligent life in outer space.”
Ken Ham complains that searchers for interstellar radio broadcasts ignore all the evidence of design in organisms’ genomes.

God and the Extraterrestrials | Answers in Genesis

1. Science
(a) Never a single contact with an ‘extraterrestrial’.
(b) Conditions must be ‘just right’.
(c) Life cannot form spontaneously anyway.
(d) Vast distances
2. The Bible
(a) Scripture does not mention ‘ET’ visits.
(b) The purpose of the stars.

That purpose is to be celestial signposts for timekeeping. But they aren’t arranged in the sort of neat patterns that would be suitable for that.

Author Werner Gitt quotes sociologist Gerald Eberlein:

research has shown that people who are not affiliated with any church, but who claim that they are religious, are particularly susceptible to the possible existence of extraterrestrials. For them, UFOlogy is a substitute religion.

He knows what competition it is, I’m sure.

Are Aliens Going to Hell? | Answers in Genesis Ken Ham claims that he doesn’t believe that ET’s will be going to Hell because he believes that there are no ET’s.

I do believe there can’t be other intelligent beings in outer space because of the meaning of the gospel . . . . An understanding of the gospel makes it clear that salvation through Christ is only for the Adamic race—human beings who are all descendants of Adam.

I also stated that “I’m shocked at the countless hundreds of millions of dollars that have been spent over the years in the desperate and fruitless search for extraterrestrial life.”

Alien Abductions: Freaky or Fiction? | Answers in Genesis
After stating that there are no ET’s, the author concludes that they aren’t piloting any UFO’s, and then asks what abductions might be.

One of the early proponents of alien abductions was George Adamski. Adamski began lecturing on UFOs in 1949. This was shortly after the beginning of the UFO craze following two famous and well-reported incidents in 1947. By 1952, Adamski was claiming that he had had close encounters with aliens. Over more than 15 years, until his death, Adamski made many wild claims, but investigators eventually determined that Adamski was a con man. Since Adamski profited greatly from his books and speaking fees, it appears that he was motivated by profit

So he’s guilty of practicing capitalism. Just like AiG: Store | Answers in Genesis

As to George Adamski, he was a contactee, not an abductee. He claimed to have had close encounters of the friendly kind with talkative human(oid) ET’s. Like this bit from his Inside the Spaceships:

I was delighted when I saw Ilmuth and Kalna coming forward to greet me warmly. “Did anyone tell you about the surprise we have for you tonight?” Kalna asked, and without waiting for a reply continued enthusiastically, “A certain promise made to you will be fulfilled!”

It turns out to be traveling to the Moon. Such a far cry from ET-abduction accounts.

Then Antônio Vilas-Boas and Betty and Barney Hill. The rest of the article continues in its mixing up friendly contacts and abductions.

Do I Believe in UFOs? Absolutely! | Answers in Genesis By Ken Ham. As unidentified flying objects in the literal sense, not extraterrestrial spacecraft.

From these passages of Scripture it would seem that the earth is very special—it is center stage. Everything else was made for purposes relating to the earth. For instance, the sun, moon, and stars were made “for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years”.


The God-Man, Not a Klingon

But note, Jesus didn’t become a “God-Klingon,” a “God-Vulcan,” or a “God-Cardassian”—He became the God-man. It wouldn’t make sense theologically for there to be other intelligent, physical beings who suffer because of Adam’s sin but cannot be saved.

Life on Other Planets? | Answers in Genesis

Although the Scriptures do not directly say that no life was created elsewhere, the suggestion that it was is not only totally unnecessary, but loaded with logical and theological problems.

From God’s point of view, the earth, far from being insignificant, is the crucial focus of His creative, sustaining and redemptive activity.

Then goes into detail about that.

Breakthrough on Creator’s Code! | Answers in Genesis

Carl Sagan, an ardent evolutionist, atheist and fervent believer in life in outer space, has been involved in a search for extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI).

Then asking what would happen if he looked at some genetic material.

Secrets of the Universe | Answers in Genesis by Ken Ham.
Summary: why look for ET messages when you can look for the god he believes in?

Aliens in Your Bedroom? | Answers in Genesis

“Once you look into it, evolution is the central tenet, whether you look at science fiction, SETI or the Rover missions to Mars”, Gary observes. “Belief in an ancient cosmos billions of years old has preconditioned people to expect alien visitations. It is thought that if life evolved on Earth, surely other civilizations would have evolved on distant planets far earlier than ours and, thus, would be more technologically advanced.”

Gary says star travel is impossible, according to known laws of physics.

Except if you are willing to take a long time to do so.

Gary already knew that the modern UFO movement had a quasi-religious side and even served as a substitute religion that consciously displaced Christianity and biblical authority. But only after he was deep in research did he uncover reports from well-established researchers that linked stories of abductions and ancient demonology.

The same sort of psychological phenomena, I’m sure — nightmares and sleep paralysis.

Even self-proclaimed Christians have been swept into a UFO worldview. “On one occasion,” Gary says, “I was giving a talk, and at the end a young married woman spent over twenty minutes quoting sections of the Bible better than most Christians I know, but each time it had a UFO interpretation. As she explained it, aliens were our creators and had been visiting us for millennia, overseeing our evolution and the Christian religion. She spoke openly about visitations and stated that she had met Jesus. (This is very common among abductees.) Every time I identified an inconsistency in her interpretation, she brushed it off. Her state was the closest thing that I could imagine to being brainwashed.”

Seems like he was beaten at his own game.

Why We Can’t Phone the Aliens | Answers in Genesis
Reporting on SF writer Ben Bova addressing the Fermi Paradox.

But his presupposition—that abiogenesis is responsible for life on earth—is essentially blinding him to other possibilities, such as that life was created only on earth—and nowhere else.

Talking to Aliens? | Answers in Genesis by Ken Ham. “The Creator of the universe has already communicated with us, yet a U.S. agency is using your tax dollars to teach students how to communicate with aliens!”

Aliens Among Us | Answers in Genesis

BBC News: “Alien Life ‘May Exist Among Us’” Never mind looking for “aliens” out in space; what if they’re living here among us?

That may sound at first like a B-movie plot, but it’s actually the latest hypothesis of well-known Arizona State University’s Paul Davies. The physicist told Chicago’s conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (see items #4, #5) that our planet may have forms of “weird life” totally unrelated to life as we know it. The symposium Davies addressed was “exploring the possibility that life has evolved on Earth more than once,” or perhaps that life on Mars was transferred to Earth.

Where might these “aliens” be found? Davies suggests toxic arsenic lakes, salt lakes, deserts, and extremely hot hydrothermal vents in the deep sea as their likely habitats. He proposes a new “mission to Earth” to find such exotic life, which he calls a “shadow biosphere.”

That’s not impossible, and I’ve thought about that issue myself. I’ve concluded that it could be recognized as some cellular organism that lacks DNA or RNA. It would likely be discovered by finding out that it has no recognizable genes — gene-sequencing machines would report nothing to sequence.

Would Christianity Survive Discovery of Aliens? | Answers in Genesis
Concludes that it’s a non-issue:

Thus, there is not only no reason for the Christian to believe aliens exist, but reason for the Christian to believe aliens don’t exist.

Why Couldn’t Jesus Save ET? | Answers in Genesis

There is no Scriptural basis for space aliens. God outlined both the past and future and readily reveals that He created life on earth and in heavenly realms (e.g., angels, heavenly host, cherubim, etc.) The fact that ETs are not mentioned anywhere in Scripture is significant.

Daily Growth in Evidence for Extraterrestrial Life? | Answers in Genesis Responding to an article in the mainstream news media.

As we’ve written before, the Bible does not teach that God did not create life beyond earth; it is silent on that possibility. Yet, reading Scripture holistically, the implication is that earth (and especially humanity) is at the center of the cosmic stage. That view, combined with the lack of evidence for either evolution or extraterrestrial life, leaves us quite doubtful about ET—truly skeptical, unlike many modern scientists who have put their faith in evolution.

The author of this one doesn’t seem quite so sure.

Aliens in Other Universes | Answers in Genesis
About the cosmic microwave background:

The algorithm [developed by the team] found data that was consistent with the type of features generated by a collision between universes. Although not a discovery as such, it is a hint that suggests that a more definitive result could be found with higher-resolution observations, such as those from the Planck satellite launched last year.

The author was skeptical, and I share that skepticism.

Did God’s Plan Include Life On Other Planets? | Answers in Genesis
Repeating yet again that there are no ET’s because Jesus Christ died only once, as a human being and not as an ET.

The Search for Alien Life | Answers in Genesis
Repeating yet again that the Universe was created with humanity in mind, and not with any ET’s in mind.

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